Don't throw the baby in the pool

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...of toilet papers. Come on over to the day. I got you. Maybe one day, not today. Ain't the day. It's a lot of fun. Just enjoyed it and when she kind of Japan. Yeah, I'm sure whenever Sarah gets out here, she'll she'll use it. Jos was having a little bit too much fun with it. When she first I was like Yo, because you can hear it, you know, you can hear it. Just like five minutes I was like Yo, what are you doing there? You know, walking out here moaning and ship listen. I mean that's the thing. I'm just gonna throw that out there. Shower sometimes, is that real, like the water, I mean from the shower? Absolutely, Yes, the detachable shower head. Oh, sir, you have. I just feel like any sensation down there, y'all just gonna get like. It don't matter what you as long as you feel something down there, it's gonna that's right. I'm not shame saying riding a motorcycle that would do it. Um, you know, I've ridden many motorcycles in my day and I can't say that that's ever taken me there. You know, washing washing machine. I've had sex on top of the washing machine. That definitely it could. It could do some things. Yeah, if you, if you do it the right way while it was going. Yes, Oh, was that the intention, or was it just happened like that was oh wow, oh damn. What about rodding horse? Never ridden a horse before. I have, but I was a small child, though, so I don't yeah, that was way before I even I can't say for sure. I can't say I thought you want to say. I thought you grew up on a farm. I didn't grow up on a farm. I grew up out in the country, but I didn't grow up on a farm. My neighbors had horses, though. That's that's why I mean ridden horses. But I thought the shower head thing was fake. But no, it's absolutely real. It is absolutely real and it works. Let me just say especially have ofable shower head. The more you know, not how Um, it's good so far, man. Yeah, we definitely got all track with that one. It's been good. Um, I've been here since August eight, so we've just been going through preseason stuff. We just had a preseason tournament a couple of days ago and, uh, our season, our actual season, starts in two weeks, on the the first October one. So it's getting ready for that, man. Huh, good, good team teams. Yeah, yeah, we we we got a good team. We were we were one game away from making the playoffs last year when I came. So yeah, we have a team to compete and we have pretty much everybody back and then all of all the foreigners are healthy all, everybody's healthy. Everybody's been playing well. So we got a good shot man over there. Is it like here? Like people seem to getting sick left and right. Yeah, but you know it's not. People are not taking it seriously as when it first came out. So you know, you have your protocols to three days, five days at the most, but I still don't understand what close contact is and what people like what's not close contact, because last year we were literally in a game where the coach called Covid and one of they said, one of our teammates was close contact, but we literally all was around the person who had covid and just him missed the practice. Everybody. I was pissed. I was like, we took it for the tournament we just went to. We had to take the nasal swab thing, but other than that, non, not really. We haven't took any test. True, because any part of you getting sick of basketball already or you know, I am feeling like I'm getting old though, like every day I wake up and I hurt and it's I don't understand. It was like the same things I used to do. I'm like, Yo, why am I? Why am I feeling like this isn't almost annoying. You really take care of your body, like you're really good at taking care of your body, like exactly, like you know, mean Cold Tub treatment every day, all that stuff, and it's like it don't matter. But don't man. I'm like, damn, BRO is this it? Na, but NA. I still feel good, though, you know, the little annoying eggs and pains, but other than that I still feel good. Just out of curiosity, are we talking like muscle soreness or like joint soreness? Both both. Reason I asked I saw this. Uh, I watched this youtube dermatologist and they were talking about Collagen supplements, because a lot of people think that it's bullshit, which it kind of is, because not act college and your body has to produce it. But anyways, long...

...story short, apparently a lot of people take vital proteins and it really helps with like arthritis, like in joints and stuff like that, because my knees, I swear, like every day I swear they're getting worse and I'm I'm only thirty eight. It's not like I'm sucking sixty, but it's like so bad. I'm thinking about trying it to see if it helps. So I'm just gonna throw that out there at you if you want to know. I take. I Take College and I take college and powder and all that stuff. Yeah, I'm hip to some teammates put me on all that stuff, so I'm hip to it. Do you think it helped? Uh, I don't know, man. I don't know if a lot of this medicine is placebo effect, a lot of it works. I don't know, but I just take it just in case. You know, for me it's important to do whatever I can to try to, you know what I mean, play as long as I can. So I don't know if it works, but if it does, I'm taking it. Stuff exactly. I can't hurt right. Yeah, brought some peatoes on your knees, man, be all right, potatoes. That potatoes. What the hell kind of Louisiana was that? Could Google? John Just said something. Is What it is. Yeah, I don't know. It seems like there's some I don't know something about potatoes, but whatever. Uh. Yeah, congrats on the hall of fame. Appreciate that. Yeah, how does that feel? It feels good. I mean I'd be lying to say I didn't think I was gonna get in just because it's just based off my career, but just to actually finally get that call was was great, man. And unfortunately you were expecting the car. Yeah, eventually, yeah, eventually, but yeah, it was unfortunately I couldn't be there, but my family was able to go there and accept my reward for me and my brother gave my speech for me. So yeah, yeah, my sister recorded everything. She Ain't missed nothing. How was that? I missed it. Soccer practice, but we'll get to that in a second. Yeah, I've seen that. I got some questions about that. Two Year olds having practiced on anything but right, Bro, whatever, but anything. Let's stick to the hall of fame. Like, how was it? How was this speech though? Like, it was good. It was good, man. Um, I pretty much copy and pasted everything I wrote on my my post Instagram, and then my brother threw some he read your word. Yeah, he read my words. Yeah, yeah, I was going to through like plan. So U Man, I was just gonna go up there and say whatever I had to say. Yeah, man, I was thinking about that and I was like man, my words, but my brother, my brother is really good at stuff like that, like public speaking and, you know, engagement. I missed that. Just some good company too. But it was Gino Tavon Steadman, I think it was, a rifle coach, one of the old old rifle coaches from Wu. We had a great class. Yeah, Geno Smith, and I mean it was crazy could be there either. I mean not sadly, I mean obviously it's a good thing that he wasn't able to be there, just like you, because you guys are still playing. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, it was thanks, man, I appreciate it's just just to know that you're, you know, your heart work was being recognized and, Um, like I said, great company going into that class. So I couldn't ask anything else. What do you have to do to go to the hall of fame, though? I mean, like, what's the cartel you gotta you have to play for four years? I don't know, to be honest, I don't know. Find Out. I'm not sure to interesting. I'm more I'm more thought of, you know, being in the hall of fame just because you know what I did, what us going to the final four and then also what I did my senior year. So just like I think you thinking number should be retired, of course I do. Of course I do, but that ain't gonna happen. That ain't happen. I'm good with the hall of fame. They together and do retire five day if they retired, days, if they ain't retired, days number, they ain't retiring my number. YEA,...

...so it is what it is, but I'm good with the hall of fame though. True. All right, so the criteria. Candidates will be eligible for induction into the Sports Hall of fame ten years following completion of his or her career at the university. So doesn't say has to be full four years. It just as completion Um ten years after. They have to have demonstrated a nationally recognized or regionally recognized athletic, playing, coaching and or administrative ability which brought a degree of fame to himself or herself to the university. So, like all American honors, stuff like that. Um candidates must have attended the university for at least two years or have been a member of the staff for at least four. Candidates must receive seventy five percent committee votes for selection. Candidates are given full consideration, the full consideration for a maximum of ten years. If a candidate received zero votes at any time in the process ten consecutive years, that nominees candidacy is suspended and moved into the archived pool for review perpetuity. Imagine not getting no votes for ten years, though. It's like why even put somebody in there if you're not going to vote for them for ten years? Streets, I don't know. That's a good question. I mean, he would have been eligible for it, but was Joe All American? I would love to hear his speech. That's the only reason. Yeah, that would be interesting, but so, so what? So what about this, though? Do you think this is fair? If you were Um, if you weren't all American coming out of college, but you got drafted top ten, like you should be in the hall of fame. Well, it says anything that that brought recognition to yourself, that was considered a claim. That way, I think that would be considered a claim as well. Right, all right, well then, yeah, that's so. Yeah, it doesn't say specifically it has to be all American honors, just things like that. So it can be any type of, you know, national recognition. Yeah, in that case Joe should be in the hall of fame. I'm sure. I'm sure he's gotten some votes. I mean I'm sure he's. I mean he's definitely not in there yet, but that doesn't mean he won't be. He might be in Um Hall of fame. Uh, what is it? What is the pool you go into? What is the when you go to a new school? What is that? TRUMP PORTAL? He might be. He might be in the hall of fame, Hall of Fame Portal. Right now I'm getting I don't know, I hope. I hope not deserve it. Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to stand. I don't know. I don't know. I just want to hear a speech. But congrats, Kja, of which you also miss your coaches hall of fame. Yeah, Open Boston. I mean, how how was that? How was that? It was a good time, Bro, it was. It was crazy. I mean it's just a lot of faces, like a lot of celebrities there, like Gary Payton, Charles Barkley, Nick Van Excell, uh Kenyan, Martin, Jason Maxiell, all those guys were there. You know what I mean. So it was a good time and uh, I was on you mentioned. Remember what coach said. was saying because, Yo, you put your head to the fucking room. John, that ship made me laughing as soon as you said I was crazy. It is like before I spoke to him, like he was just looking at me the whole time. So I thought somebody said something to him about the previous episode that we did or something. So he was just looking like I was like say something to him or I just I was I was about five, six drinks at the Times. I ain't. I was like, Yo, calls man what Bro, he's cool. He's cool. He don't look like the most approachable dude in the world, so he's cool though. Okay, all right, that's what's up. When he came to he came to y'all in Y'all locker room, didn't he? I don't think so. I don't think I turned he probably he might have been at a game, but I don't think he came to a locker room. I don't remember. I think if somebody told me he can't in the locker room at the game one time, he like, I don't know, he was going off. It might have been after I was there, because it definitely wasn't when I was there. Oh, you would have did something hum stuffed up. You would have told me to get off the locker room. Yeah, I would have been like Turk. Wouldn't no better. Guys as tassed up in there. I was. It was a good time? No, but I ain't like how you could tell how he was reading off like a teleprompter for his speech.

Well, a lot of people do that. I wanted, I was looking forward to him being hisself, you know what I mean. But I guess he had like a time speech and you had to get through everything. Like if I was doing a speech or something like that, I would have notes on the on the teleprompter instead of just sign. So you're saying that he didn't actually make this the I was just gonna say like. So, that's what I majored in in school and I was a speechwriter professionally. So there's two different types, right. There's those I prefer. Personally, I'm like you, John. I work off an outline. This is these are the points I want to hit. I put that up there. But you and I also don't struggle to speak, you know what I mean. Like we have a lot of personality. We we tend to speak a lot. For people like him, they have to have the manuscript completely written out. It's almost like a mental thing that they have to do that. But a lot of people are like that, like they have to have the full thing. They can't work off of an outline, especially when you're in a room full of a bunch of people. And and we know so coach Huggins, of course, has been in front of tons of people all the time, but you can kind of tell he doesn't necessarily like that, you know what I mean? I don't think that he enjoys speaking in front of a bunch of people. So I kind of get it. He's super charismatic and like sarcastic, so I figured that wouldn't be a problem for him. But I mean that's around us. I don't know how he is around like super big crowds, but that would be a professional you know what I mean. He probably didn't want to have a slip of the tongue and say something that, you know what I mean, it might defend somebody. MM hmmmm right, I mean, because it was you gonna write your speech? Was that was? Was You going to write your speech? Um, if I was there, I would have had it written down on like note cards or something like that. I was gonna say I'm that type of person that I was just talking about, like I need to know exactly whatever I'm gonna say. I can't work off a bullet points because I know that I'll forget something that I would really want to say. True, true to yeah, I'll get it. That jacket is fired up my my my brother. My brother was talking with hugs on the on the field and stuff, and he was like yeah, you see me blinging Gee, you see me the change, the change. I mean he had the rings on, the Hall of fame, the chain was out, had on the orange jacket. I talked to him today. I practiced and I was like, I twitted last night like Yo, if I was hugged, I would wear the orange, the orange jacket at every home game for sure. Yeah, I told him that today. He was like yeah, I want to wear it inside out, the show all the schools, because on the inside it's like the schools. He coached that and everything. So that would be tough too, but don't do that. Do it. That wouldn't it was the idea is good. Who Cares at this point? Yeah, he U. I was damn. What was I going to say? Um, they should have a hall of fame night for hugs? Yeah, where he where he actually wears the jacket or people, you know what I mean, like that. That would be tough have his own nights celebrating him. I mean I think they're going to do it like kind of like coach k dude, but he's never gonna say when he's going to retire, you know what I mean? I feel like he's not gonna be like all right, after this year, I'm gonna retire, so he won't be able to do like the tour or anything. I don't I don't know. I don't know how that's gonna work, but we'll see. Hopefully he'll stay around for at least three or four, five, six more years. Never know, man, that's a good question. I wonder how, like he's been coaching for so long, like I wonder how much more he's gotten him like or the want, you know what I mean. Like he can't, he definitely can't. He could do it to the day he dies, but I wonder how long he wants to do it. He looks energetic, like he said he was enthusiastic about this team. Like he's up at practice and he's He's coaching him up man like reminded me of the old days, you know what I mean. Like I'm kind of excited to see what they'll do this year, I think, because I even said that the other day when I was piste off at the football team. I'm like, well, there's always basketball season. So now it sounds like I got something already. It's only three games in. As I told you, man, I have my moments. I get a little feisty about it. Yeah, speaking speaking of that game, because I didn't actually see it and uh so, we got a group chat going on and ash was going in so and I'm like, damn, it must have been a close game, closer than you know it should have been. I look up, it's sixty five to seven. We win and I'm like, what was the problem? I don't understand,...

...like what else could they could have done? Then shut them out. That's the only thing that was left. It was right at the beginning of the game. And you know, we we come out and of course we score a touchdown, because we should. No offense. Thousands like US playing a high school team. I mean, it just is what it is. Well, then next thing I know, I'm like freaking watching US punt the ball, this kid gets it and punt returned for a fucking touchdown and I literally I just threw the remote and I go we fucking suck, like I just couldn't handle it and just dumb stuff right there at the beginning we were just doing dumb stuff, like jt got sacked and like nobody was holding any but like it was just crazy and I was piste off. So I basically said we suck and I can't do this anymore. Typical Ashley Moments as through the remote. So my story is I was I was on the field at the game, like for the beginning of the game. We school is looking good. I'm with Bradley starts and Bradley, Remember Bradley when you playing on my football team as a quarterback for a second he played the basketball team too. Apparently he was an all American in basketball and I didn't know that. What's his name didn't let him. What's his name didn't let him play for whatever reason or something like that. But when when J B came, it was him and somebody else. I forgot who else. It was JB Bradley and somebody else, and coach didn't let uh Bradley play for whatever reason, but apparently it's really good. But anyways, I'm with him. Would want to field watching the game with all families and stuff. And he's telling me like yeah, my cousin plays for Touson, like he's he's doing kickoffs, he's doing proper times and all that. I'm like, Oh, that's what's up. That's cool. That was his cousin. I run it back. I was I got get out of here. See he thought the same way I did, like it was up, not really, I had there we go. Yeah, so how. So how are we feeling about? How did besides the first quarter or first half of the game? How did we look outside of that? was was the score more because if we looked good or they were that bad, or a combination on both? Um, I wouldn't say that they were that bad. Honestly, for like what they do, like their division and all that. Like they're not a bad team. I mean how they were too and oh before they played us. It's not like they're horrible. Um, they have some shining moments. I will say I saw some very promising things coming out of our football team after that beginning opener, because it was really just that opener. We scored on every drive after that, I think, actually all of them. There was only one we didn't even get a touchdown. We had to go for a field goal one time. But, Um, what was nice was being able to watch our second and third string get up there and do their thing, because there's always someone that's gonna Shine, and man there were some shining moments. First of all, our back up. So obviously we've got j t Daniels and then Garrett Green. Of course they kind of, you know, they don't only split time, but they kind of do. But then we've got will crowder, who's like really our backup quarterback, and dude he he really showed some promise. That kid can freaking throw the ball. He can put it on target. I was very impressed by what he did. And then we got to see Nico for the first time. I was so excited to see Nico Get out there and dude, he dropped it in the fucking bucket. I mean you couldn't have put a bulls eye on this dude and him hit it any closer, like it was insane. This guy caught it like ball coming over his head right here like basket, like it was insane how he threw that ball. I don't even know how he did it. It was great and we had a few wide out show some promise. It was good. Remind me of WHO NICO? Nico, how do you pronounce his last name? Dave is a marquis, all marcial. Okay, we'll fill this in later, from Arizona. So Nico is it like he was like an all American, like everybody and their brother was trying to get Nico. Um, he's just your typical like great quarterback, because he's just very well rounded. Like a lot of people tried to get him to come to their schools, but he chose West Virginia. I'm not sure why, but I'm happy that he did. Do you think he'll end up leaving? No, I don't. I think that if he was going to leave, he wouldn't have stayed. He wouldn't have come to begin with. Honestly, especially after or he would have left right after he found out that J t Daniels was coming, because we all knew with jt coming this year he was going to be qb one Nico was gonna have to take a back seat. I do believe the Nico's red shirted for this year, though. So yeah, but I mean it's gonna be him and him, and I mean he's eventually going to be quarterback no matter what. Him and will crowder will have to go toe...

...to toe to see who's gonna have it next Um and we'll have to see who comes out victorious. But they both showed great promise. I mean hopefully Nico doesn't leave or will doesn't leave. No matter WHO's QB, one to always have one of those is a backup. I'd feel good about it. So we'll have to see how that plays out, though. How do you play if Mar Marquisol? That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. Would you say, John? I said. How do you play? If he's a Roight shirting? You can play up to four games. Okay, all right, that's that's what's up. I don't think. I think. Just just win. I don't care who throws the books. One of y'all, a one, are y'all, four, whoever those that's who I'm riding with. Let me ask you. You're you're a real like mountaineer fan, you know what I mean, like blue and gold. How do you? How do we feel about Neil Brown right now. That's a good question. So I think that Neil Brown is a person. I think he's a great person. He does a lot, from what I've heard, with the community. He's a really nice guy. He does awesome things. Here's my issue, though. A lot of people are putting a lot of blame on him. Let's remember the Neil Brown is not making play calls this year. Okay, that's not who's making our play calls. So if you have any problems with what's happening out there with the play calling, it's not on him. Okay, Graham is the one making the play calls. We'll not going forward on fourth and one. Is Not news decisions, correct. I mean, you can't you like that's a that's a good question. I would have to talk to somebody on the coaching staff to get clarification on that, because I honestly don't have an answer. I don't think anybody just fan wise would have an answer to that. The only people who can answer for that is the coaching staff. But with that being said, when we're running the ball instead of throwing it, that's not a Neil Brown thing. That and also I want people to remember too, because I was bitching about it too, because that's what I do. and Joe was like Ashley. He's like, remember that this team is pretty new, like we only had two people come back from our defense, just two, and we got a brand new quarterback other than our experienced whiteouts, and one running back, like there's not a whole lot of familiarity on this team. And really your quarterback matters more than anything because he's like the leader of the team. So it's gonna take a minute for them to Gel with one another and to really figure things out. So let's not be too hard on them right out of the gate. And Joe, who knows sports way more than I do, told me it's not. He's not worried. After that game. He told me he's not worried yet. We need to give it some more time and we'll see how this goes. So as of right now, I'm gonna hold judgment, although the last time I did that this is how the season started. So maybe I should be more vocal and say funck Neil Brown, and then maybe it's really good. But deep down, instide inside, I think we should give it another another gamer too, before we make up our minds on that. People people don't like telling to listen to Brown's list his house, for there's students. There's a petition going out right now, students meeting at the freaking mountain layer trying to get him fired. Like, Uh Huh, right, he's not going anywhere. He just had an extension. If, if cheaper to keeper was a person, that would be Neil Brown. Like, he's not. He's not going in there, he's not going to newhere, Bro and on top of that, I don't I don't like to play the what if game, but we could easily be three and no right now. We were in both games and we blew both games that we were in. You know what I mean. So I mean forever, whatever that's worth. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing. I don't know if you would rather be blown out than lose a game like that. But in all reality we could be three and no right now. We're different conversation. Right. I'm with you, like it'd be different if completely blew us out of the water, if Kansas completely blew us out of the water. But that's not what happened. That's not what happened. You know, we went toe to toe with both of those teams. It very easily could have ended up on the other side. And crazily enough, I I hate to say this because I hate blaming refs for losses and things like that, but even the other day Joe and I were watching, I think it was Alabama and Texas. Dude, Texas got hosed on some calls. Like what are these reps out here doing? Like they're changing the outcomes of games by calling some dumb shit and also not calling things on the other teams. Like I always thought it was a mountaineer thing, like they just didn't like us, but apparently it's with everybody. I mean as a tough job as well, for sure, I'm...

...not gonna it's the only job you're always wrong. It's the only job you're always wrong by somebody, one of the teams. You're wrong, so it doesn't matter what you call. I'm surprised that, out of all the new technology, that they haven't computerized that yet. Like there could eat very easily be cameras above the field constantly running algorithms looking for fouls, whatever, you know what I mean. Like that could actually be done pretty pretty easily. I wouldn't like that, though, because you gotta let some stuff go, you know what I mean? True, but there should always be a human on the other side. You know what I mean, like okay, the computer, you know, through a flag, let's take a look at it, sort of thing, you know, like it doesn't always have to be that the computer makes the end all be all decision. Yeah, because then everything would be super tedious, every every little thing would be called and you know that's not that's not sports. Joe. You gotta, you gotta allow for some gray area plays. As long as nobody they can always well, whoever programs it could actually make like a priority list, like, you know, holds. Always, look for holds always, you know, look for Chop blocks or targeting, you know, like serious things like those go to the top, but then like little ticky tacky ship can go at the bottom, and it's like, you know, from zero to a hundred, it could be like, you know, like a forty, you know what I mean, like you can let it slide if you think you should or whatever. You know, you can program it that way. M's like something I've been thinking about lately. But then it's like, when it comes to certain parts of the game, it's like okay, you also gotta like, I don't know, it's like when it when it comes to certain parts of the game, especially at the end, when certain do you think certain things should be called? Do you think certain things should be let go, or or should it be by the book, regardless of what point in the game it is? That's legit. I also think that they're getting really freaking weird with rules like that. Do we have so many rules changes every damn year? Like, give me a break. Yeah, like, why are we doing this? Like I understand, like they say, you know, it's for the safety of the player or this, this and that. No, it's not like and a lot of times it's like, Oh, I didn't know I couldn't do that. Well, Jesus, neither did we. It was a rule year. Right, right. So the next game is at V big game. What's it called? The what? What? I don't know, the something bowl or something like that. Isn't like a name that goes with the game. Okay, I thought it was. Our producer can look it up, such a SMARTASS, but not. What's your predictions on this game? It's vas good. This year they actually lost the Old Dominion. So I'm going to go with. No, could be a blue book, I don't know, but, Um, you know, I haven't looked it up. Let me look it up and you can talk about them more that you know. I was like how they played great against us the do you know it, especially since we're playing at Virginia Tech. That's that is a difficult thing. Speaking of which, Dude, one of the greatest things Pat McAfee. He's now on a college game day. Dude, watching him is golden. That man has got more personality and I'm so happy to say that he's from West Virginia. And he was talking about like teams who are on the road going to someone's like you know house basically, and putting it on them and getting a big win. And he was talking about how hard it is for the home team and like how you know when you hear the silence of the home team, how that's like a big thing for a lot of players, like they enjoy that or whatever, and he mentions the infamous pit game that we all have lived way too many times at this point. Um, and it was kind of funny because pat was like it was totally my fault, like he took all the blame and like the guys were like, Oh, it's not your fault, and he's like, I didn't talk for days. It was so great. Yeah, but he was funny. I'm still piste off he didn't get him on the show when he said he would come on the show before he stopped. Grew exponentiously. What is the word? Exponentially? Exponentially, whatever, I'm but it's whatever. But I'm looking forward to the V tech game. I'm going to the game d how Far is that drive? Four hours? Damn well, dress is gonna be there, Mike Gas is gonna be there, a couple other guys gonna be there, so it's gonna be a good time. You know what I mean. I'm really looking forward to Virginia. Text like atmosphere. He was there when we went in Maryland and yeah, that I didn't really like that. It was too spaced out. No, no, not Marylan. I mean I'm...

...the Virginia type game. It was like, so V tech comes out to I mean I guess there like this. Their song is like Metallica. So they come out to the METALLICA song. What is it? Inter same man and this lit like the atmosphere is lit like. This is crazy, like it's one of the I don't like Virginia type, but I can. I enjoy their football and basketball games just because they definitely take their yeah, they take their sports very seriously. Yeah, so that's gonna make the ship talking that I do. Watch out. Hopefully nothing bad happens to you. Are you ready? You Ready? You're going with? You're going with. Justin the kids. Are you gonna buyself? Going by myself? Just gonna hold it down. You know what I mean, and I'm gonna go wild out. Do we need to go to? Watch out on ESPN and watch for you and Gabe just walking the sidelines. Is We get every game now, but they're supposed to be on the sideline. So No, I'm not shooting this game now. My ankle to just crack. Oh my goodness, is that oldness? Man, we're all getting on. Ain't even nothing, Dave, you can't give me. I never could get you a pass. That's crazy. I'll figure it out. I'll fame coach for one h how do's? This isn't going I don't like asking people for favors. I don't know why. Two seconds ago I was just about to say it's like a it's like a brother to me. What with you our predictions the score is gonna be. You'll think we're gonna win. First of all, Um, I don't know my prediction is for this one. I'm gonna be totally honest. I haven't. It's so hard at the beginning of the season, especially when, like Virginia Tech, hasn't really played anybody. Like they literally played Old Dominion, Boston College, which I don't think is even I don't remember the last time Boston College is really relevant on that might be a little shady, but it's the truth. And WOFFORD. I mean, I don't really know what they're even though they lost to Old Dominion. But then again, we also have lost to to all. Granted it was to pit in the Kansas, who I think is a better team than most people are gonna have credit for this year. Watch out, just saying State Michigan. I don't know who they played. I feel like a lot of the blue blood schools that's like usually great and basketball, are really good in football now, like Duke, you got Kansas, you got Kentucky. It's weird. How Great. Yeah, so they beat us. They beat Houston and Tennessee. Tech are the three games that they've had so far. But yeah, the University of Houston supposedly was supposed to be good this year. So the fact that they beat them as well. DANNA STILL THERE AT HOUSTON? I don't know. That's a good question too. And someone, I think it was, smoking musket that was like I can't imagine Neil Brown losing to Dana Holgersson when they play next year at home. Oh, we play University of Houston twelve in Morgantown, did they? I wasn't aware. I know there was talks, but I didn't know that actually happened. Well, if they do play, I have to set up my, UH my stripper after party for Dana. I know he's gonna go. It's not that great, great buddy. That is funny, though. Damn well, that's why I asked that question on twitter, like did we run Dana Out of time? Because he's not like your typical like he's not playing it by the book and he's not going to say the right thing all the time. He's not going to dress up. He likes the black uniforms, I think. I think at the end of the day comes down to wins and losses. You know, people are saying Huh, Danna do bad? No, he didn't. I think it Um, I think. I think he wanted to leave. Didn't he want to leave? Yeah, I mean that's what Steve Wasn't he the One? Yeah, I don't think he got fired. He definitely Ye, because think about it, think about what ash just said. Like Neil Brown could be the nicest person in the world. You got people freaking petitioning outside of the mountain layer and shipped too. So I don't think it comes down to how you are personally. I think it comes out if you could get the job done or not, and that's what it all comes down to and it's you know,...

Dana Wasn't a bad coach, finding stretch of the imagination, but he was there towards the end. We were kind of just always middle of the road, like never great, never losers, but we were never great and sadly let's remember that. You know, our West Virginia football team hasn't had a great moment overall since two thousand and seven. So it's been a minute and we're due for it and fans are are going to be vocal about it and so is everybody else. So I think it's just it's gotten to that point now where what's the point if we're not going to be great? Right, two thousand and sixteen, it says we were tenning three, though, but that's not that. That's pretty weird. But we weren't. Yeah, it's I mean it was good, wasn't great, but we weren't on the we weren't on the road to National Championship. Ye, we went to the Russell Athletic Bowl. Our schedule must not have been shipped then. Huh. Well, here's the problem, right, ever since we moved to the big twelve, it's like we get shoved down to the bottom of the pack because every year the big twelve is sucking insane. You've got Oklahoma, you've got Texas, all these teams that are ranked every year that we have to play against and we're never gonna be superb. Even with the record of ten and three, we were probably fourth in the fucking big twelve conference. You know what I mean? Like it's the truth. Why don't you think whatever be superb? Like, why can't we? I mean I think Neil's get into the top recruits right with will say he does. He does. He does do well with recruiting there. There's promise there for sure, and honestly, this is gonna Sound, this is gonna sound some type of way and some people may disagree with me on this one, but I think that Texas and Oklahoma leaving the big twelve conference is only going to help us at the end of the day, if we stay, that is only going to help us do what we need to do, because we're still in a power five conference at the end of the day and if we can get those types of teams out of the way, especially big money teams. I'm just saying, but doesn't that also take away value of the conference? Though? It does, it does in a way, but it does. But at the so then that that that raises the question what's more important? Is the money more important or being a winning team more important? I like, I like Texas and Oklahoma in the conference. It's because we get an opportunity to beat them every year. You know what I mean? Like that's a big win. And I'm not saying we're always great either. Texas isn't. What good is an opportunity if we don't take advantage of it, though, we just get it. I mean we can't duck the bump like acually just trying to avoid them. We gotta gotta beat somebody like you just can't shirt. What's that worked on? Like? Could we just schedule like a whole bunch of sority teams and still make and go undefeated and make the National Championshi, absolutely a lot of teams do it. No offense to the SEC, but half the SEC is fucking Shit, and that's legit. Look at the numbers, other than fucking Alabama and Georgia that there ain't Dick on that fucking roster, nothing, and was pretty decent every year. Yeah, but, like you, gotta remember that the SEC is also broken into two parts. You Got Eastern West, but because you're in the SEC, that matters more than who you're actually like. Strength of schedule. You know where. Honestly, the big twelve should be considered way more than any maybe the big ten as well, you know, because they actually play great teams that are ranked every year continuously. You know what I'm saying? Like that, we should get more consideration. They should be choosing. That's why I'm glad that they're extending the playoffs and I don't know what that's. I think it's supposed to take place in so we still have a little ways to go. But, like, I'm excited for that because could mean two teams coming out of the big twelve could go into the playoffs to play for the National Championship. That is the way it should be. Strength of schedule should matter more than fucking anything, more than anything. But that's not what happens. I started, I started talking about w football and turns into a seller. I love it. I told you, I get feisty. We had like three bitches, two fuckings, one shiplogize and, God, let's put the you gotta put the Beep in front of it. I would make it more funny, that's sure. You should just start belieping. I apologize everyone in my bad. It's you're a lady at the end of the day. You know I like it. I like it. This is why we can't get picked up by Tony Korey, because, and I wouldn't like a sailor, I can't help you be yourself.

Other News, it's uh, I mean we we talked about the hall of fame earlier. It's hug's birthday. I don't know exactly how all he turned in, but what's up. It's twenty one tomorrow. Yeah, that's why he was so happy to do oh, did he turn the big sixty nine this year? Oh Wow, damn, John. You know what, you know what to get him for a president? Symbolism, symbolism and that. Yeah, sixty nine, Marvin's harming. Damn, that's crazy. Goat, I don't know. Hey, good looking, thanks for listening to the show. Help us spread the word and tell your family and friends about us. We're available on all major podcast APPS and on facebook, twitter and instagram. At final forecast, shout out my girlfriend Sarah's her birthday, as well as coach huggings. Yeah, all right, so tech game was Saturday, as everyone knows. Also, my wife signed my daughter, who was two years old, for Tech. You met Howson, but go ahead, Talson. I'm sorry, actually I had about already. So the Towson game, this isn't a big game, you know what I mean, not a big deal to miss, but this is my first game. I was gonna go to at home and UH yeah, we had, for whatever reason, the soccer coach scheduled a two year old soccer practice for ten am that day for two year old time practice soccer poctice at all, let alone game day. Like, what is going on? These guys really serious? I'm yeah, I don't know, I think honestly. Now, what are your prais? First, about two years in soccer practice. Two year old believe that she's playing soccer at two period like that's did she express interest in soccer or why? Why? Soccer? No, it's just something. I mean, my wife signed up for it. First of all, like, I feel like we could play soccer in the backgrouard. You want to kick a ball on, we can just go to the background. We don't need to pay a hundred dollars to go to the soccer practice where a bunch of kids aren't playing soccer. They're just running around, they're playing with cones, they're doing everything except playing soccer. But uh, yeah, so that's basically what's happened. Violet was, you know, she was kicking the ball around a little bit, but they were trying to like get him to like do instructions like two yearlds and not gonna absorb that. Yeah, they're not going to absorb that. Like you know what I mean. What is the what is the appropriate age? Do you guys think that kids should be starting in any kind of sport like six, seven. I say four or five. I was gonna say four or four, or what I was going to say, because well, four or five. They at least understand instruction. Now, coordination. Wise, I mean they're not going to be great, they're not gonna do anything wonderful, but at least they can learn basics at that point. They play soccer. I do. Are you good? I started when I was probably eight. I played cricket and soccer back to back, cricket and soccer and soccer. I think it's the socialization at that point in excuse your parents to get together and meet each other. I think exactly. So, bar screw you forgetting volly involved in pepper pick because she's talking with like an accident now and she needs to start watching. She needs to start watching blue, which is Australian, and she'll start talking Australian now. We watched and pepper pig. It's like a whole thing. It's like a whole world loves pepper pig. Country's daughter, Layla, she's the same way. She loves her some pepper pig. He's from Englen. Oh, is that it? Oh, wow, okay, I didn't know that. It's crazy. But back to soccer. I mean I guess it helps like her coordination and her social skills, but she didn't talk to any other kids and she barely kicked the ball. You know, we were kicking around a little bit. Oh. Also, I have to participate in this soccer practice, like I have to be out there with her. I also have that's the real reason John didn't want to go. Now we're here in the real reason why? You? It was one thing. Just let I don't mind playing soccer with her, but if I'm paying for soccer practice, why do I have to bring my own...

...equipment, for one, my own ball, and then why do I have to participate? We could have did that ship in the backyard. I'm with you, dude. I totally agree. I definitely like I just don't I just don't get it. I don't know. It's a scam. Can I show you, guys, something worse than this? But I want to show something worse. Yeah, I might open the my own soccer program with the kids in enabling charge me. Yeah, it's not a bad idea. Have you have you seen the parents that get their newborns to learn swimming that's just just through our baby in the pool. She did this with violet, literally this. It's actually a great time to get kids to learn to swim though that, you know, I wouldn't be not be throwing a child in the pool. Listen, why? MM HMMM, why? She said, like that little man is not mm hmm, oh my God, like throwing your child. I'm it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how many years of swimming lessons you had, you sucking threw them head first, the new born. Kidding, this is a this is the like a special class. It's not swimming less. It's called like survival, like something like that, but just an like are you gonna like throw a baby into a campfire so it knows that fire is hot? Like, what the fuck? That's a good point. I was the guy's getting hurt this. It's like this is crazy, like crazy. Get US some floaties. Yeah, I'm not against with like babies like swimming, because babies naturally know how to hold their breath and like swim, like. The concept is already there and I understand, like even like holding them like as they swim, like. I I understand that and I'm all for that. It's a great time to it's almost like it becomes innate when you teach them that young. So when they get older that it's just like instinct. They know exactly what to do. But throwing a child in a pool like that, like, are you fucking kidding me? Right now, these classes cost eight hundred all. It is a session. I'm not a session like four. I think it's like two months, three months. Then violet doesn't even do that. Like we go to the pool now, like she doesn't. I was like, all right, let's see, let's see what you learned at swamp product. She doesn't even. She forgets everything. She just sinks. Yeah, just kids are infensive, John. I do not envy you on that. We don't have to be. I could have taught how to swim. I could kick my own kid in the pool. It's like I could have threw her in there. What the Hell? John said he was working on the third one at the hall of fame ceremony. So what are you gonna call it? John? Definitely shot the club up at this. Damn Violet, we got literally what's the what's the third going to be? I think it's be another girl. If it's another girl, rose, rose a rose. Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna rose and rose. Could we call it? Could we name her rose? Is that rose? Say You name whateveryone would be everyone drunk all the time, or parents were just drunk all the time. R O s e. with the with the what is it? Don't at the top excent mark. Yes, all right, but yeah, this is this is crazy. I'm not. I'm not paying eight hundred dollars from my kids how to swim. Like your dad don't know how to swim, YOU'RE NOT gonna know how to swim. It is what it is. No, but down together, and were in the river, going down together together. By advocate. Like a lot of kids. A lot of kids do drawn from like falling the pool, and that is true, but that's up to you as a parent, though. That's your responsibility to make sure they're nowhere near a pool. It's I said the same thing, but they do just sometimes they do just run off and do whatever the hell they want. Like, if you take...

...your off from for a second, it will be into something. You know what I mean. So I understand that as a parent, but it's mandatory to have fences around pools to stop children getting into pools, I believe. Isn't it here in Westford, here in the US too, because like your insurance company won't ensure you unless you have like certain things. Yeah, I thought as a real estate agent, I know that you have to have a fence around your pool in the state of Western Jina, but in Astarlia, even if you don't have kids, because the neighbors, the neighbors could have kids. What if I live out in the middle of nowhere, John, do I star to have a fence around that pool? That's a good question, you find, because I really wanted in ground pool when we build our house and I'll be damned if I have to put a name fencer in Australia. And Australia, though, they're worried about snakes and I'll look at it. I don't know why they have to have a kids don't die. You gotta throw a crocodile as a kid and expect I mean you could, I mean you could, but that was me at eighteen months and my mom's like hair is that are the least of kids worries in our story. But swimming is a huge cultural thing over there. A lot of people have pools that's why they that's why they have it. Are they born in the ocean like the seafolk, and we emerged from the sea with tridents and then we share our mermaids. You have to be born again in the ocean, like they drowned you, and if you don't come back to life, then you're not really from the sea. Are We being tired? Shot shout the game of thrones. I've never seen that. I actually do want to start watching that. I'm not hit yet. Oh yes, you should stop. One's been good so far because it's dragons in all of the episodes. And Kevin, there are plenty of boobies for you as well. Oh Nice, my favorite. That's really what I was watching it for. I really don't care about that. I really don't know the rest of the not the new one, though. Like I haven't seen that too many boobies. No, they haven't. There's not been a whole lot of nudity on the new one. Honestly, not how it normally is. Actually this, I think, the most recent episodes, the first time. No, I guess her uncle was having some fun in the brothel, but this is the first time we really saw any action actually didn't. They didn't show anything, like they didn't know. They didn't. You're right, it's like rated PC. It wasn't like game of thrones. Were like boobes were seen every freaking episode. Bush, Bush, everywhere. The Bush was insane. What was it? What was it? What was her name? And she was man. She got to bang him body. She did her cow drag o. That is a fantasy of mine. Like you can just in certainly right in there, like okay, that is a dream. Right there. However, took a shot. Just shot, just shot. See what happens. Tell Joe you want that as your your wedding? UH, yeah, your wedding gives just I want one thing. That's it. That's all. Masking, Danny cal three. I have the role play. Have them dressed up. That could happen, Yo. So everyone has a hall pass right like this? One person, two people, three people? Maybe that you could. She don't even you have that? MMM, I don't know that. Spoken about it. No, Joe, would you allow that for a job? Absolutely, a hundred percent. Do you boo, like, I'm not even gonna be married about it. It could be somebody in downtown. That's she's really hot. No, no, no talking about we're talking like fantasy status. Right. We're not fantasy status, we're talking about a person you're never gonna meet. So it's okay for him because he's never going to meet and if it ever does happen, it's like, holy sh it, this is like once in a lifetime. You can't. Yeah, I can't even. I'm not even mad at what if he calls you and be like hey, she's she's right here, she's she's right here. What do you think? Go for it. Go for it to you to go as you are. I mean she always plays this car. You don't think it's really the right you can think whatever you want. I believe that leading the same for me. I thought like I...

...would never run into certain people as well, but I would go to vegas a lot back when I was hanging out hold Kj, I'm running the Phoenix Marie one time. At that point she was my favorite pornt style, so I got a picture with her and stuff. I don't think you've never told me about this. Huh? I posted it on Phoenix Marie posted. Maybe I just didn't know who it was. Phoenix movie. You don't know who fhennix Marie is? Now. I heard the name. Heard the name. You think about it? That's the question. Did you think about it? Did you approach it? was there ever a moment we spoke like she was super flirtatious? That's just because she's I guess that's her nature. But no, I wouldn't. I don't think I would, because it's just like yeah, and then also, I don't know how we approached with the actual also, when approached with the actual moment, it might not be the fantasy anymore. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know, it sounds all well and good in theory until you're approached with it and then it's like here's your moment. Do you do it? And it's like it may not be. I don't know. I don't know that I would actually go through with it. I just pictured us not being good though. I just picture it just like worn out by now. So it's like all right, yeah, it's like all right, cool. Now it's like a hot dog in a hallway kind of situation. She didn't look anything how she looked and her like in the videos and stuff either. I mean it wasn't like that big like. It wasn't that big like for me you know, that's that's legit too. Like I've watched this youtube video the other day and it was showing like influencers and even celebrities and like how amazing they looking pictures and even video, and then you see like a random, like Paparazzi shot and it's like, Oh my God, they don't even look like that in real life. Like that is insane. Apparently the website sleep cupid got answers from six thousand people all over the world. Guy's answers were Sophia Agara, Kaylee Kuoko, beyonce, Ariana Grande, Mila Kunas, Scarlett Johansson and Kim Kardashian. And No, Scarlett's bang and she's got herbs for days and those lips. Kelly Kuoko, that's the girl from Um. That one I don't get. I don't get that one into that Kim Kardashians, like, have you ever had a chance like say you guys were both single and Kim Kardashian was there? Yeah, your name. The Ladies Answers were Colin Farrell, Matt Damon, Cleo dicaffrey, rump it Downey Jr, Denzel Washington, Johnny Depp and George Clooney, George Clooney, Colin Furrow, im speaking, I'm thinking, yeah, they're Colin Farrell is definitely more attractive. Um, Matt Damon knows about Elba Oh Idris. So I hear a lot of women talking about who asked Jason Momoa. Hands Down, he's the one that played Cal Drago in game of thrones. A hundred percent. He's also Awkwad man. I think that he is just he looks like he would throw you up against the wall and just give it, I mean all day. Yes, yes, yes, yes, what if you? If you meet people? I'm just monster. I just oh him into it anyways. Go ahead, all right. When do you meet these people in there? Nothing like what you think that they would be. That's the letdown I'm talking about. That is the letdown. Yeah, that's when it's like y'all got into it and he had the smallest penis you I was singing in your life. You would you would be scarred, you'd be scared. I'd be sorely disappointed. You'd be like, yeah, what the fuck? Looks like a man still cold from the water. Huh? I don't know that. I don't know that I can hide my emotions. Two things swears about. Two things that swears about penis and w football. Just what the what? Yeah, this show is taking a turn for the worst. It really has. It was fun, though, good fun. I don't know how we got from from from violet soccer practice to...

Jason Momo's. This is what happened. This is what happened. And what's the occasion? To night. Asked why aren't we drinking coronas? My second one, the second ash ashes, ready for costplay tonight with the truth is I'm exhausted and if I wasn't drinking a corona or two, I'd probably have already fell asleep by now. So that's the most people drink coffee. But I can't drink coffee this late at night. I will never go to sleep. Yeah, that's another big boy growing up activity. I have to get used to drinking like coll or something. Drinking coffee at night no bad for your sleep patterns. You don't want to do growing up sucks. Keep playing for the rest of your life. M I'M gonna try. Man, you're back like he's doing an adult. He's still an adult. He just doesn't happen. Yeah, I was like, he plays a plays basketball. You pretended you can do it's not like I didn't say exactly. I did. I didn still play. Now he chooses not to play. Exactly. That's exactly what I was gonna say. Let us go up sometimes. Let us not indulge this ship. Let's wrap this up so I can eat dinner. We don't have time to be John's therapist tonight. AOUT. Oh yeah, as we are. You dressing up for his Halloween. I don't know that I'm gonna do Halloween this year. Very timely September episode question. Mm Hmmm, because we were talking about cosplay. Yeah, M I'm about to think about that one. I should do helloween. Women. I feel like women trying to make everything slutty, like slutty Zombie sledty. Uh. I'm like, all right, everything isn't meant to be. Everything isn't meant to have to wear pantyhose with fucking every you're usually me and my girlfriends. We go out to like, you know, we went to, you know, Cleveland. One Year we'll do like Baltimore or whatever, Um, and we always do like a group costume, like some type of tie in together. Last year we were supposed to do like the whole. My friend Lizzie was going to be Dolly Parton, my friend Heather was going to do share and I was gonna do Joan jet. So you can't really, I mean Joan jets cool and all, but she ain't like sexy like that, you know what I mean. So that wasn't something. That wasn't what I was thinking for Halloween costumes. See, that's what I'm saying. They try to make everything sexy like it's just wrong, so wrong, and also, by the way, I'm not in college anymore. Man Like, I want to be comfortable. I'm not trying to go bar hopping and have my costume ridding up my ass all night long, like it's just not fun. That is not fun. Shureberry shortcake, ash is no longer. Yeah, starfish, your kick, ash is retired. Popper pig it is. This has been another episode. The final fourcasts with Medio J flow. I got my Guy Kevin Jones with me, Hall of fame, and duct appreciate appreciate it, my appreciate it. He's good to have everybody back. I love that lovely co host, ash that I apologize red curse words. Don't don't you're getting thank yous right on that. For a long time, Dave. Why are you still dabbing? Nobody fucking DABS ANYMORE.

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